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D Kitterman's avatar

Amy, you have left me astonished, energized, vindicated, and somewhat sad that at age 70, I am finally cognizant of the lifetime of wasted, unappreciated energy I have put into men. One of the few upsides of my age is wisdom, and I wish that I had achieved it much earlier and not put so much thought and energy into less than optimum relationships. Us older women were raised on bullshit Disney and religious expectations and outcomes, which outwardly I was repulsed by but interiorily, gender earworms persisted. I am optimistic that things have changed a bit in favor of younger women and their options for independence and self-containment, while wildly apoplectic about us simultaneously losing legal bodily autonomy via the very worst of idiotic testicular and misogynist behavior. I hope more young women aspire to your spirit and grit.

I have spent the last several decades doing things on my own; a 5 week round-trip cross-country solo camping trip across America in my old Toyota manual transmission pickup (every woman should do this), solo wilderness camping (scarier now these days for multiple reasons), traveling solo to Amsterdam and around America to hear avant garde jazz and other types of world music only to find that almost no women ever seemed to show up, and careers in construction, project management, and similar male oriented, higher paying jobs where the men were not engaged in any type of self-assessment, cultural or artistic concepts, intellectual curiosity, just seemingly satisfied with being empty bro zombies.

Yours is one of the most uplifting, almost surreally satisfying and thoughtfully constructive pieces that I've had the pleasure to read in some time. It is also a stern reminder of how much I have let my physicality deteriorate, and that I need to take better care of me. Grateful for the reminder.

All the best to you, young woman!

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Victoria Veldhoen's avatar

Your writing is always great, but as someone who married their high school sweetheart, it's particularly interesting for me to hear about your forays into dating. I've never been on any of the online apps or dated anyone other than my husband. And dates at 14-16 that I vaguely remember several decades later would almost certainly be a completely different beast now that I'm older and I tolerate less BS and I'm a mom and I have my own baggage and they would have theirs and etc etc. The men in my life that I know best are all partnered, and interesting and funny and pleasant to be around. But they're a cultivated, biased sample and finding them through the world of dating sounds like finding a needle in a haystack. I've worked with lots of men who I asked questions of and took time to get to know who never returned the favor. It was obviously galling (given that I remember it), but perhaps less so given that I wasn't dating them.

Your experience with "Karl" thinking he could do the hike while not bringing any supplies or being in good shape reminds me of that poll showing that 1 in 8 men believed they could score a point on Serena Williams. I do have more sympathy for him after reading his response about his job, though. I too have over-committed to events when I was emotionally bereft and suffered for it later.

Also: It is really interesting that you have dated men in their 40s virtually your whole life. I remember, as a teen, thinking that 40 was the peak sexiness of a man. You may have something there.

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